US Police vs. South Korean Police

UC Davis Police Lt. John Pike uses a can of pepper spray to move protestors who were blocking officers attempts to remove arrested protestors from the Quad on Friday afternoon. Wayne Tilcock/Enterprise photo
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I have been struggling with the images of police brutality from the USA. It’s really hard to see this when I am living in South Korea right now, where police brutality isn’t a thing.

In South Korea the cops are often the target of harassment from citizens who have had a bad day and want to unleash some of their anger. The police are very cowed by the people, and only press charges in 30% of cases where they are assaulted. In the cases where they do press charges (for being assaulted by a citizen!), only half of the citizens are actually fined. The total fine for punching a police officer in South Korea is 100,000 Won, or about $80 US.

I want you to think about that.

It’s an $80 fine to assault a police officer, but charges are almost never brought. Police are seen as part of government oppression, and so no one trusts them. They are seen as a necessary evil, but no one likes them.

Really let that sink in.

It should go without saying that the police in South Korea absolutely do not shoot people, black or otherwise. It just doesn’t happen, and hasn’t since just after the Korean war.

I would ask that US citizens please start reconsidering the role of police in society. So many people try to justify the police murdering innocent citizens, and I just can’t understand that. Please don’t argue for a police state! Please.

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15 thoughts on “US Police vs. South Korean Police

    1. That is a flat out lie.

      You are 100% wrong in ways that you should be ashamed of, because they are varied and terrible.

      For one: The rate at which police in the US are killed has been dropping for decades. It is at it’s lowest rate in a century right now.

      Ergo, police are not often shot.

      Another Fact: Police murder of civilians is at an all-time high. There is no justification for this. Zero. None. Not a single thing on all the Earth can justify the police murdering civilians. Ever.

      And then there’s this: Police are hired for a job WHERE THEY KNOW THEY COULD BE HURT OR KILLED. They swear an oath knowing full well that they are putting their lives in danger. They accept the risk (which is low).

      Civilians DO NOT ACCEPT ANY RISK. They do not make an oath. They have every expectations to be able to get up, go to work, and come home without being shot during a traffic stop.

      And then there’s this little fact: The job of the police is NOT to function as jury and judge.

      They have no authority under the law to kill.

      They are only allowed to arrest a person and bring them to trail, where a jury will decide IF A CRIME WAS EVEN COMMITTED, and if so, if punishment is required.

      Cops shooting innocent people just trying to live their lives in an atrocity.

      You arguing in favor of cops murdering people makes you an enormous, festering, stinking pile of the vilest shit in the known Universe.

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      1. You are a racist and an idiot. I will check out nothing you have to say. You are a waste of space and I am ashamed that you are a citizen of the same country as me. Dirty, dirty racist.

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  1. I have also lived in South Korea and I couldn’t agree more! The cops there knew their place. They didn’t bother you or come unless called. They stayed out of the way like cops should do, and they didn’t have guns.

    In contrast, cops in the US just straight up murder people for no reason. They are vicious killers in body armor with tanks in their stations so they can crush any resistance. US cops are the worst. Just the worst.

    And because of this, people in the US literally don’t know what freedom is. I didn’t know until I left. Once I finally experienced freedom, I looked back with sadness at the US and the police state that it has become. My country. The place where my passport was issued. My home. And it’s the worst of all the first world countries.

    So sad.

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    1. Yes! These people have no idea what freedom actually is, so they argue against it with all the rage of the clueless masses. But I checked out the profile of the douche above, and it turns out he’s a racist blogger who basically writes KKK propaganda for a living, so I am going to assume that sane Americans are open to fighting for freedom, even if the racist wants to fight against it.

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    1. Lol. You may be right. But I am just asking for equality. I don’t need to rule over the white man. I just want the same rights. And while I am at it, I also want to not get shot for walking down the street. That’s why South Korea is so much better than the USA: ZERO danger of being murdered!!!

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    2. ” I think it might actually be the other way around, if you were to do a study.”

      Back when they actually did IQ tests Asians scored on average about 6 points higher than Caucasians. People of African descent in America didn’t do quite so well and real Africans in Africa even less so. Those are simply facts. We can question the validity of those tests (and should), but we can’t completely say they were absolutely false.

      Nevertheless the author and philosopher Ayn Rand made the very valid point that in judging an individual it makes absolutely no difference. Individuals are not averages. A particular person may represent an IQ, exactly whatever that truly is, that way exceeds the norms for his or her ancestry.

      If you detest racists so much, then if you are rational and objective you have to admit that racists exists with every possible color of skin and complexion. It is not a failure unique to Caucasians, and in my view, racism by blacks is one of the greater maladies of the U.S. at present.

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  2. I want to go ahead and agree, since my husband and I were there for a few years. He’s in the Navy, and so we go a lot of places and see a lot of different cultures.

    South Korea definitely has a more free society. My favorite part was feeling safe when walking home at night.

    However, if I were a minority (and I have many friends who are) I know that not having to worry about being murdered by cops would be pretty important to me as well.

    I liked how no one had guns, including the police. The lack of any shootings at all in Seoul in the three years I was there was a big deal (since it’s one of the biggest cities in the world.)

    I wish the US had cities like that, where you could live there for three years and there wouldn’t be a single police shooting.

    But most of all, I wish that the US understood the role of police. They are there to arrest criminals. That’s it. They have no right to pass judgement on anyone. That is for a jury and a judge to do.

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      1. Actually large parts of the U.S. are very safe, and very comparable to large swaths of Europe who’s safety from gun violence is often touted.

        My small town in Texas most years has a homicide rate of 0 per 100,000 (the standard yardstick). However the overall homicide rate of the U.S. is less than ideal. There is however a reason for this.

        The overall homicide (and violence and crime) rate in the U.S. is heavily skewed by incredibly high homicide rates in pockets of crime and violence called “inner cities” and “ghettos” with large African American populations. Many of these have homicide rates equal to or surpassing homicide rates in some of the most violent third world countries in the world.

        Some sample homicide rates form 2015:

        St. Louis 59.23 / 100K
        Balitimare 54.98 / 100K
        Detroit 43.89 / 100K
        New Orleans 41.44 / 100K

        There are only 4 countries with higher rates than the above:

        Honduras 84.6 / 100K
        El Salvador 64.2 / 100K
        Venezuela / 62.0 / 100k (a Socialist ‘paradise’ 🙂 )
        United States Virgin Islands 52.6 / 100K

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

        Compare to the overall rate for the U.S. at 3.9 / 100K.(2013 – probably going up this year).

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

        So really, how safe you are in the U.S. is hugely dependent on where you live, and largely the culture in the U.S. in which you live.

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